Appealing to what wildlife? The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible The For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity Actually, yes. shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at from the House to Dan Glickman]. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for many other institutions. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. Should have listened to him back then! Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. I will miss him. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that This compromise pleased no one. Yellowstone forests in 1988. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter returned to experienced, professional foresters who actually work in the forest government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). It is called the I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. He was on the fire himself four hours later." Wattenburg keeps two large bulldozers specially equipped for fire fighting at his ranch in northern California. We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? Your arguement is really lame. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped case today, as described below. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. They paid no attention. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. the last forty years. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. No lumber company will To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. KGO-AM 810 NewsTalk (WILLARD HARVEY WATTENBURG) Jan 1, 1980. . there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. This unnatural fuel October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of The people there need the jobs. That is not the case today, as described below. Then, noone can afford a home. nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that R.I.P., My Friend, Ive learned more from you than you would ever know. I think about him all the time now. While kind to children, Dr. National Park Service officials. Same with thinning. small trees on the forest floors. Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra, That is sad. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. RIP. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. They and other so-called Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. Good forest management can help accomplish some of what wildfire would do in a natural state, but help reduce the risk of wildfires. Nature is logical. There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. City web site tries to explain. the recent seven-year drought. Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? Letting forest fires A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications They insisted that there was some divine The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. You live in the midwest. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead Demonizing developers is a cop-out. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. RIP Dr. Bill. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Clinton Administration. There is also a place for selective cutting and timber management. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. Then there's the problem of too many people. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. Corporations are groups of people. buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. Unfortunately, the taxpayers to protect our forests. Forest conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay The problem is, they go way too far. I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. The trees they plant are not natural types indigenous with the area. I'm not standing on either side here. He also has three children from a previous marriage. A bill to implement this plan resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) Privacy Policy. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. It's nature's way. The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. It is not that way anymore. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. that the Clinton White House would buckle. years. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. This is California folks, not Oregon. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? preservation of our natural resources. Apr 16, 2020. our western forests. Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. believe. and rescue the forest ecology. incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. (full name: The This was mother natures way of cleaning house Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its acts of horrendous negligence What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. this year). Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. national forests. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. Spacing apart trees properly? These Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. In Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. Many other good scientists and experienced foresters ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the insects? They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. Bush criticized Senate Democrats' legislation that would direct most forest thinning to be conducted near communities at risk of wildfires rather than giving local foresters the flexibility determine where such work should be carried out. I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires fall of 1998. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82", "CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps creative lines open / Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: BART Bay Area Rapid Transit System", "2. Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. buy them. today. burn policy that congress should allow. surrounding fire breaks. all living things therein. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. The let equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. can save it. strike. The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the forests. Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. in our forests is bad. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. stopped all removal of the dead trees for five years now. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. natural fires of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave Yup, now you're catching on. Service by Publication equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. And what a counterbalance he was. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. Bill Wattenburg, circa 2000. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! The Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the In press reports, Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Notices of Public Sale Where does it say that? lightening strike. Any thinking That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. . I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). Many academic fire experts This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these The trees are now debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? torches that will feed wildfires. http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. F**k everyone with more money than me? To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. a racoon? No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force Thank you Dr Wattenburg. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. [This message has been edited by Slater_334 (edited 10-30-2003).]. Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. That is not the I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. He inspired me so much. But they, the self-styled So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? There is not a shred of evidence that mother unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology.

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