Does Henriette mind being used by Louis? Guilt often manifests itself in an outward show of rage. Hi, And also shout out to Hannah for being a a much needed third voice. Who seeks to harm Henriette? Louis, who never forgave a slight, always ensured that the guilty paid dearly. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. In summary, of the four people involved in this sad businessLouis, Philippe, the Chevalier and HenrietteHenriette is the most powerless, the one with the least choice in anything. Now this is fascinating. NOT AT ALL acceptable in the eyes of pretty much everyone. She actually says I could never love you well which does change the context somewhat. We see a lovely shot of Versailles outside, then cut to the Kings bedchamber, where the flowers and hedges are neatly arranged around to the bed. Grrrr well Im not writing all that over again. This was served to Henriette by her unsuspecting maid. She is later arrested as the poisoner as her son is released, but ridiculed from court. Whats wrong? I choose to believe it was a mistake on the writers part and will simply fast forward over it when I rewatch. After all, everything she did was unacceptable at that time for women and it was certainly acceptable to beat a woman, especially if she was a wife, sister or daughter. The camera pans around him and yet still, not one muscle is out of place, not one twitch of emotion. I just binge-watched all 2 seasons and now painfully waits for each episode of Season 3 to come out. Because Sophie steals any scene shes in with Henriette, hands down, and she even maintains a presence with Montespan, too, though Montespan is clearly the dominant one in most dynamics (the Chevalier excluded, of course swans fat flippers come to mind!) Okay, Im gonna walk you through what I see, so bear with me. Henriette and Philippe | Versailles Wiki | Fandom Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. Admittedly, its in the middle of a shag, when she is distracted, but still. Louis meanwhile, is disorientated (and by this time I am wondering where the guards are with all this noise, despite Marchal telling them not to disturb them). Montcourt is stabbed by Louis XIV while facing off with him and Fabien Marchal. Versailles / Characters - TV Tropes However there is a new addition, a large portrait of Louis now hanging on wall near the door (replacing a previous smaller ND painting of flowers). And the only reason she is such a powerful weapon against Philippe is because Philippe views her as nothing more than his property to do with as he wishes. This is who they truly are in this one moment of grief. Is it any wonder she couldnt work up any concern over the possibility that her rapist might die in battle? Remember, Henriette, as a woman, is completely powerless. This is who they truly are in this one moment of grief. And remember you can also start at the beginning and read my reviews of EpisodesOne, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six,Seven,Eight. Louis looks strained, says: I do not regret sending her. , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? His belief was shared by Elizabeth-Charlotte, Philippes second wife, who named the culprits as Lorraine and the Marquis dEffiat, an equerry, who had acted without Philippes knowledge. Obviously he loves Chevalier. There was an attempt on her life before. You! He points and accusing finger. You did this to her. Louis looks shocked: Brother. Philippe will have none of it: We warned you. Nothing. In between re-watching S1, of course. Nomie Schmidt, finally royal in 'Versailles' - TV Show Patrol As she made her last confession, the English ambassador, Lord Montagu, asked Henriette if she believed she had been poisoned. then goes into the bedchamber. Hi, He is always the king, while Philippe gives his emotions (somewhat) free rein. Philippe strides in slow-mo through the corridors, arms swinging, hair bouncing, coat swaying and with a tight, determined expression on his face. I am really liking Sophies growth as a character, who is, of course, beautiful, but with attitude and a strong backbone, as we are now seeing. . So to me, this indicates hes still quite scared. Now, if she had been his second cousin, and never saw each other until she married his brother, then I can maybe see them having an affair. (We wont even go into whether or not that maid wanted to be drug into the bedroom by Philippe after his jealous strop with the Chevalier or his sneaking into Louises bed. when Philippe asks if he were to die, her troubles would be solved. It is Louis who victimises Philippe and he does it in every way he can think of. Claudine confirms: We have no choice. Only a year or so to go until a new season arrived on fledgling network Ovation, its U.S. cable home. I could never love you more. Is it fair? Excellent. [4] We are shown much more of Philippes inner mind and his relationship to Louis than anyone else. While making this video i was inspired by the scene when Henriette talks about her first mask ball. Okay, is Louvois just being a dick? and especially when he proved himself in battle and all of Paris cheered him and adored him. And Louis, who is being so totally duped, is convinced by Rohan to take his son, the Dauphin, out to ride, so he is far away from the cries of pain. And yes, the Chevalier does live to quite a ripe old age . Im merely suggesting you might save some time. Marchal persists, pointing out that Louvois always disagrees frequently and loudly with the Kings decisions. Henriettes liver and intestines were found to be badly corrupted, while her duodenum, gall bladder and the lower portion of her abdomen were filled with evil-smelling bile. Do you honestly think that just because certain abusesatrocities, evenwere acceptable, that those on the receiving end didnt feel anger, pain, violation, etc. . BRILLIANT acting. Philippes distress is written all over his face, while Louis just looks angry, eyes flinty, mouth flat, jaw clenched. Close the doors! The Queen adds: we must put her in the bed. Louis nods; in she goes. Poor Philippe is helpless do something, woman! She has to find the source, which means poking about on Henriettes body, causing agony with every poke. Philippe has done as little to win her affection as she has to win his and Philippe certainly flaunts his lover in her face far more than she does hers in his. Philippe, despite their mutual loathing, was upset and distraught, so suspicion then fell to the absent Chevalier de Lorraine, who at the time was still in exile in Rome. Its my weekly sin, I confess, Im too addicted to this period to miss it. Hmm. I have known your website for some time now but hadnt had much time to write a post until now. the first time we see Henriette is with Louis, and Louis mentions her husband. No. It was all out there. Philippe and Henriette were forced into a marriage with someone they didnt love or care for. *The only voice, your own. UGH, Henriette. Her father was King Charles I of England, her mother the youngest daughter of Henry IV of France and Marie de' Medici. Poisoned? Henriette of England died in Saint-Cloud, not in Versailles. Montcourt turns and quickly leaves. I realise a woman was expected to stay faithful to her husband even while it was acceptable for him to have mistresess (ha! Philippe was the one in strident dissent! Henriette. And laudanum as a sedative was much used at the time. I believe Louis did love her. Even if I ignore the historical figures behind the show and what I know of their real lives, I cant ignore the historical setting or the social arena in which the show is played. It is one or the other. Philippe replies calmly: You acted out of pride. She is currently working on a biography of Louis XIV. Were just waiting for it to take root., Now we are outside in an antechamber again, where Colbert is frantic that Henriette must be moved, that she cannot be treated in the Kings chamber. Not so much. Sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction - and other times, period dramas take a little artistic license . What killed Marie Therese in Versailles? - Daily Justnow In Ep 3, I believe this is the first time we see the painting, it is in Louiss chambers, to the left of the fireplace on an easel on the floor. A letter from the King of Sweden has arrived, telling Louis he has agreed to break his alliance with the Dutch and support the French. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. Is he justified in knocking her across the room? Henriette drew the worst cards of all four players in those stakes. Louis continues to yell: because without me this country will consume itself in nobles squabbles. He paces. You died of a cold, or a simple infection or someone sneezing on you. Henriette is Philippes wife, his property, his to do with as he wishes. NOOOOOOO. She could have answered with an honest yes but she evades the question. Claudine and Philippe converse, with Claudine saying she feels they are not through the worst. Either way, she's dead now. Its stoic. So thats why I believe that the most that Louis felt for Henriette was that he only loved her a little or to some degree but not enough. I knew hed say that line! Finally, a scene with the Chevalier!!! Would you villify a slave because he hated his master or ran away simply because slavery was accepted at that time and slaves (much like women, little difference there) were considered nothing more than the property of their masters to do with as they please (again, just as a woman was to her husband)? throughout the show, we see Louis attempts to belittle and emasculate Philippe. poison, death and departures Versailles episode 10. Henriette says a glorious death in battle would not displease him. Saint-Simon asserted that Louis was so thankful that his brother was innocent of the crime that he decided not to prosecute the perpetrators. Philippe had a relationship with the man he loved while Henriette continued to sleep with the man she loved. *That should have read historical figures not historical characters! He goes on to make threats and trouble for her. Dear Anne, Im guessing I know a fair bit more about rape, the history of rape, the history of rape within marriage and womens rights (and lack thereof) than you realise. You, me, Henriette. Rohan slits the other guards throat, watches from a distance as the young prince has a sack put over his head then bundled off. My biggest problem with Henriette/Louis is that I find it highly doubtful that Louis would have sex with her. No one enters. Philippe is the complete dysfunctional mess he is thanks to Louis (and their mother) and he would have my complete sympathy, were it not for his raping his wife in a fit of anger and jealousy. To bring them over to us. I pity Henrietta. The cost is justified a hundred fold! ..And Philippes face that little sigh, the look he is incredulous. In one of the episodes did we see Clermont messing with the doctors box of bottles.. She had always been painfully thin and Louis once tactlessly referred to her as the bones of the Holy Innocents. I came across your reviews and I read each one after viewing an episode. We see Henriette asleep in the bed. And even after watching both seasons 1 and 2 of Versailles, I wouldnt say that he loved her a lot but on the show it was to a certain degree. Philippe was there in the woods and saved Louis from the wolves, but at the end of season one hes left Versailles. What does she say? There are times when I will shout (in my head), Just leave this place and run back to England.. We see him silent and sombre, a blank expression on his face. When she travelled to England, she was excited at the prospect of seeing her brother, Charles, again. What will be his legacy? I just rot an extremely long omment To spare his feelings? I do think it is out-of-character for the Philippe we know and love on the show, not just historically inaccurate, to force himself on her. The characters almost act as it never happened. You sound worse than Montespan and de Clermont sparring over the card-tables! Absolutely enjoyed your recap of the finale. And I see all the little things that Henriette says, her little gestures and actions that bring conflict and sadness to Philippe. Anyways, he says: we cannot be seen together anymore. Feel free to comment if any details are wrong. Marchal: The King once told me, he warned me quite clearly that his enemies would seek to destroy those closest to him. They exchange silent looks for a moment, then Philippe says quietly, Do you remember our fort?. And suddenly Marchal has his ah-HA moment. You see it in Ep3 where he yells where is MY wife? You see it in Ep2 with his angry speech to Louis: do you tell yourself that when you are fucking MY WIFE? In so many subtle ways Philippe is being demeaned by Louis. She cant honestly say that the death of the man to whom she is shackled in a loveless marriage, who feels no attraction for her and never can but can easily enough rape her, who stands between her and the man she truly loveswouldnt be entirely unwelcome. Therefore, my thoughts are strictly about the characters. Why should we fault Henriette for not ending her incestuous relationship with her brother-in-law, the king, but Philippe can be forgiven for continuing his homosexual relationship with the Chevalier? UGH D:. Another scene now, with Rohan getting ready for his ride, and a servant girl by the name of Marie entering, demanding her money. We were taking the air with our governess when we made a break for freedom. Does all this excuse Philippe raping Henriette? Next morning and Louis opens the shutters on a sleeping Montespan (aside here: Louis has a habit of walking in on people sleeping or in a state of undress. oh sorry, wrong show). And if you reread my words very carefully, you might realise that I never once touched on the legality of it. Yep. And c) to show the resentment Philippe has for his wife, a woman whom he has to share with his brother, and he cannot do a damn thing about it. Henriettes physicians diagnosed colic and assured her that she would soon recover, but it was clear that she was dying. UGH, technology! Shes genuinely quite sweet, but tenacious something Im sure our Head of Security will appreciate). So Louis settles into sleep. Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb she was the one who found it, actually. Claudine confirms poison and Louis huddles with his advisors: he wants to know if any English are at court. He is beyond selfish and his cruel behaviour is at the root of all of their misery. But of course, she wants to know what happened to her mother in exchange for that information. Although Lord Montagu accepted this, he had misgivings. Rohan took him riding. Then he screams out: CALL THE GUARD!. I have some questions. And Louis weeps. Much kudos to Nomie Schmidt for a brilliantly sad scene, aided by the backing music and the strength and emotion of George Blagden and Alex Vlahos. His contemplation is silent. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. Point 10: The abnoxious snog in front of Henriette. Yet how much pain are you willing to endure before you get what you want? I thought so but no. Photograph: BBC. Is he for or against le roi? Here it is, mes amis! Get Marchal pissed at you. poison, death and departures Versailles episode 10, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), The finale. They have some banter, and Rohan invites the boy to play a game A game of war? The Dauphin says excitedly. BRILLIANT acting. He feels betrayed. Also thanks for your detailed and in depth reviews. And then Marchal throws Montcourts words back at him: and when we are the Kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend, right? Yessss. Moreover, we cant fault her anymore for continuing her relationship with Louis (as if she would have had the power to end it anyway) than we can Philippe for continuing his with the Chevalier. And she is the only one who knew who prepared Henriettes chicory water. Husbands have being raping their wives since time began from royalty down to peasants and it was classed as taking their marital rights . Versailles 2015 - S01E10 - Bring the Garden Here (High MP4) (WEBM) (Aired: 14 Dec. 2015) Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. The mortality rate was very high, thats why people had so many children so often. Im guessing they were pretty equal. Henriette is restrained by Philippe, the Queen and Bontemps, and Philippe is clearly suffering as he listens to his wife muffling her screams. Anne. Thatd do it. The one she loves the most. She allows grief but only briefly. Off they stride with purpose and a couple of guards, through the gorgeous corridors (shot in the gorgeous Vaux Le Vicomte) and with ominous background music to set the mood. you wanted to make it your castle. Required fields are marked *. Hes just having some fun. How do we find the poisoner? Just because women were denied their personhood does not mean they were not human beings who felt as any human being might feel. Ill tell you, though, that, like you, I totally adore Philippe in this series, the actor is great and some King/brother interaction is well done. We found an old building a sorry shack made of stone and moss. Looking forward to Season 2!! In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. And the person either asserts himself or is subjugated to the will of others. Mainly wanted to know about Chevalier after last weeks tearful declaration of love. And Montespan was married too, so in the eyes of the church that was double adultery. And Bontemps replies: we are all proud of her, Sire. Louis: And now someone is trying to destroy me, by destroying her. Rohan appears: And they will not succeed I came as soon as I could I wish to offer myself to you as your subject and as your friend. UGGGGGH. Even if Louis were to let her go, she would then be relinquishing the love of her life to sit lonely and chaste in her apartments waiting for her husband, a man who feels no attraction or interest for her at all. Louis stares out the window in the antechamber, servants bring in food, but Marchal suspects poisoning and sends it back until its safety can be confirmed. I think that if he really loved Henriette that much, he wouldnt have gotten over her so quickly and easily, once they dangled a pretty, young blonde newcomer court lady to distract him. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. Then he says I pay you to spy on others, not on me. . We awarded it to you for bravery. Unfortunately, Louis paranoia and selfishness blind him to this. She causes her father distress, embarasssment, hurt. Later on, we see the portrait back in Louiss chamber What the king wants, the king gets. Claudine looks sad: this must be frightening for her. Similarly, perforation of the gall bladder may have led to an excess of bile leaking into the peritoneum causing the corruption and gangrene reported by her doctors. I enjoyed them very much, I must saymuch more than this series, which is good entertainement, but, God, so FAR from being historically correct, in so many ways. He rapes his wife. Point 4: This point actually supports my own. Louis XIV was born on 5 September 1638 in the Chteau de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, to Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. Revealing nothing. She finally asks. Montespan banters but Louis doesnt bite. You said She is in love with him and, as you say, it seems its been going on for a long time. I must be poisoned! so Philippe ordered her dog to be fed the water. Louis: you are grieving. Philippe shakes his head: I grieve alone. Louis swallows then says: You will marry again. Philippe interjects: I simply want to live. Louis: It is your duty. Philippe hisses: I have had my fill of duty. The one with Henriette's return, the rules of etiquette and the Henriette of England is poisoned during her trip back from England. I COMMAND YOU! and the guards step back. When you see Fabien going to find the missing Charlotte, you see him visualising the scenario he holds up his hand, points his fingers in the shape of a gun to see how the angle would project. Today you get the chance to kill a king! While hes saying this, Marchal behind them is taking out a knife, and suddenly he slides it across the floor, and Louis picks it up, and Montcourt lunges another candlestick is involved.. OMG And then Louis grabs Montcourt from behind and sinks the knife into him! I will also add that while Louis uses her to hurt Philippe in a very deliberate and calculated manner, I dont believe that is Henriettes intent at all. It could also be argued that Philippe is relatively powerless, but only where Louis, his older brother and his king, is concerned. THIS. Pretty sure he was not the one who did the poisoning thing. Such was the hygiene of 17th century France. Pity that they made his character too emo, too frustrated and angry with the world, when he actually was full of joie de vivre, always smiling, always chattering, always ready to find the good in every person and every sistuation. What about the angels? he asks, after Montcourt nervously says hes been praying for Henriette. Marchal commands to clear the room, Louis adds: Not you, Montcourt. and the doors are sealed: no one enters. I wonder what theyve got in store for us. I cannot even imagine his reasoning for this, however I do know historically, Henriette desperately did want to be Queen of France, as did her mother want it, but at the time, she didnt have the pedigree, being the sister to Englands heir who wasnt even on the throne at the time. All I could find were negative. As to fiction I found the ones I did read ended up thrown against the wall. He certainly is darker, more angry and violent than he was in real life. Youre brought up, its your duty. In the early hours of 30 June, she died. the court was rife with extra-marital affairs involving married women as well as men, but still) but that does not mean Henriette could turn her feelings for Louis off at the touch of a wedding ring from a man she didnt choose or want. She seems like she has genuinely been brought in as a main character simply to drive the wedge deeper between Louis and Philippe, but not contribute anything herself to most of her scenes! He remembers too. It is Louis, and not Henriette, whom I see as the one who does the greatest harm to Philippe.

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